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Poster: Jim F Date: Mar 10, 2005 1:34pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Which Grateful Dead shows have been removed?

My only concern is if these "unreleased shows" are only gonna be released as digital files to be downloaded. I don't wanna buy any newfangled itunes ipod or whatever they are called. I'm happy to buy released shows, but I don't have the internet connection or hardware to obtain/play this stuff on.

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Poster: joobie Date: Mar 11, 2005 3:15am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Which Grateful Dead shows have been removed?

well, if they're released digitally the same way the dick's picks series have been, it's two different bit rates of mp3 or flac. so if you can listen to anything you've downloaded from here, you already have the hardware, internet connection, and software required.

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Poster: US Blues Date: Mar 10, 2005 11:05pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Which Grateful Dead shows have been removed?

As best as I can tell all the shows that have been removed lately exist in the Vault as multi-track recordings. I suspect the Dead have asked the Archive to remove shows that are being considered for or will be official releases. A properly mixed multitrack recording will be far better than the rough mixes that have been available on the Archive. Jeff Norman's work on 4.24.72 and the GD Movie are exquisite, IMHO.

Years ago David Lemieux posted an explanation as to why "Ladies and Gentlemen..." was not a full 5 show release from the Fillmore East. One of the comments he made was that he'd rather put the effort into runs of shows, from multitrack recordings, that would be even better. He then used the "Live Dead" run as an example. Of course, including the three January 69 shows from the Avalon, and 2.12.69 from the Fillmore East would make an even juicier package.

Personally, I will buy official releases of pre-heroin shows (and later ones that look interesting), Vaults or DP's, because the sound quality is the astonishing on a good system, even the DP's, considering the source tapes. And I will support the band on that level. Look, there are not many shows that were done on multitracks: the Live Dead run, Europe 72, the Dead Movie run, Kesey's Creamery Benefit, Warfield and Radio City 1980, and the Without a Net tours (fall 89 and spring 90) are about all they've got. Hell I'd buy every complete Europe 72 show in a fresh mix if I could, and listen to it, grinnin' ear-to-ear, til I die.

As for the Archive, I'd suggest you download everything from 10.19.71 (Keith's first show) through 9.28.75, and then go after the juicy bits from 68-70. But please appreciate what is here, and what the Dead may offer that will be the best we'll ever have of Jerry and the boys in this or any other lifetime.